Normally I'm behind the camera ....

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  1. callumw

    callumw Active Member

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    Was over in Burnham-On-Crouch with some mates for breakfast on 6th May.
    Coming back there was a photographer snapping bikes as they went through....

    He got about 6 of me as I went past:

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    I liked this one best (after I edited it .....) ;) :)

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    Nothing beats a photo of someone out enjoying their bike. Big up to your mates photography. A bigger up to your editing skills.;)
     
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  4. phantom

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    sweet pic, only one thing I would say is for him to slow the shutter a bit
    to give the perception of speed.
    how long before someone calls you a squid for the jeans lol
     
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    lambeth longshanks Active Member

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    I really like the big pic, Callum. In what way is it edited? In layman's terms, please.
     
  6. callumw

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    Cheers Chaps :)

    As long as I'm in focus then yes, so he's have to track me through the corner to have the background and wheels give motion blur.
    But you can really only do it if your almost parallel and, as you can see, I'm heading straight at him so motion tracking won't work (on 1 shot it would, but he's trying to sell 6 ;) )
    I could put a motion blur in post if I wanted, but I kinda like it as-is :)

    The Jeans are RST Kevlar + armour Jeans.... aaaa thank yaaaa *bows* :)

    Sure.
    Do you use Adobe Lightroom? (the explanation will make more sense if you do)
     
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    I don't, shipmate.
     
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    Lovely pics, your bike looks stunningly shiny mate!!
     
  9. callumw

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    Alreety then... It went something like this:

    Bumped up the exposure about 2/3 a stop
    Removed Chromatic Abberations
    Dropped the highlights to get detail back in the bright areas
    Added an 'S' curve to balance the contrast and make it 'pop' a bit
    Boosted Clarity and saturation a bit
    Upped the yellow+orange channels to bring up the wheels a bit more
    Added a gentle grad filter to the BL and BR and TR of the image (1/3, 2/3 and 1/8 stop exposure drop)
    Spot correction on the headlight (100% desaturated)
    Spot correction on the visor to up clarity and exposure
    spot correction on helmet + jacket to up the clarity and boost shadow detail
    Noise reduction
    Added a smidge sharpening
    Done :)

    Takes about 5-10 minutes to do. There's no right way to do it... just how I feel at that moment.
    Would probably do it differently today if I started from scratch
     
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    Flip, Callum!

    I don't understand a word. Sounds great!
     
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    this is what I meant with the motion blur,not going
    fast but with the slow shutter and pan.this is raw
    from the camera.

    DSC_0061.jpg
     
  12. callumw

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    Yes, and the Duke is almost broadside to the camera and probably running a consistent speed.
    + you're on the inside of the corner so you can track for longer. From the outside of a bend you'll only get the apex if you want motion blur.

    If the guy at Burnham was photographing for himself then he may have done some tracking shots and maybe got one that was pin sharp.
    But he was shooting the approach and apex rather than just apex for a very simple reason...

    Capitalism vs Art ;)

    His objective as a freelancer is to sell as many images as he can.
    More (sharp/sellable) images = a much higher chance of selling one .. or two ... or the whole 6 image approach and tip in.
     
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    That shot im only doing about 40 low f stop and slow shuttter
    And the image of speed is created.
    I do it all th time on the slow down laps at road races,
    It wont matter what angle as its the wheels you want
    To see blurred when doing action shots rather than
    Freeze frame. If he is selling them he should be trying
    To make them look more action packed rather than point
    And shot on auto lol
     
  14. callumw

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    Curious.
    What settings would you use on the same rig?
    Nikon D700 + 400mm lens. Lying on the grass, no monopod.

    To give you an idea of the light available, his settings were on manual and
    1/1000s @ ISO 400 + f/10 on a 35mm sensor.
     
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    I would have used about F4.5 to 6 max ISO-200 and around 1/640.
    I know this setting as I use it as my base setting for all bike shots
    then adjust according to light conditions but I try to keep a low
    f stop for a narrow depth of field that gives the speed illusion and then
    as low a ISO so that I can crop the photos without too much noise.

    oh to add the pic above was a nikon D80
    F4.5 1/500th ISO 400, that was my photographer mate
    that took it.he got me into the cam's around the same time
    as I got that duke and he said to me the main point are,
    histograms, shoot dark/flat and fix in post production, always
    us the lowest ISO you can and for bikes,people, objects (unless massive)
    use a real low F stop.oh and never have the lens full in or out,
    always take it full then back off slightly.he told me why but I
    cant for the life of me remember why now...too many Guinness lol
     
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  16. callumw

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    The settings you suggest won't work and you're 1 stop overexposed ;)
    + shooting dark is an old theory that doesn't hold up with modern digital cameras.

    I can hear people falling asleep out there....
    If you want to continue then drop me a PM ;)
     
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    I just slow the shutter speed down and hope for the best.

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    Untitled by (MrB), on Flickr
     
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    You shoulda spent more time Callum editing ya shot so your lean angle was not left in the 'Premier League Chicken Strips Camp'! ;)
     
  19. callumw

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    Yea - I guess I'm not man enough :)
     
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    how do you figure that one out, and according to most pro digital
    togs they all say shoot slightly underexposed as some lcd screens
    on the cam show a good shot for you to get home and find its slightly
    overexposed which cannot be fixed.also underexposed and flat records
    more details.unless your using bracketing in every shot or you have a laptop
    handy to check the pics as you take them are you going to risk that one
    off pic being overexposed?


    here's a shot using near them exact settings...I dont see it over exposed?

    _DSC0093.jpg
     

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