HELP needed ASAP

Discussion in 'General 1000RR Discussion' started by Barney1, Feb 19, 2013.

  1. Barney1

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    Ok thank you .
     
  2. thezipsteruk

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    Im not sure I can help, but I am off to Dobles on Saturday morning (on the train) to pick up my hopefully fixed repsol.
    Do let me know if I can help in any way.
     
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  3. chrisrepsol

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    you should have approx 12v with everything off ! when engine is running at idle u should have anything from 12,4 to engine revs up to something like 13.7 a 12v batt may only read 11.7v at standby and drop to something like 11.2 10.8 when u press the start button if it drops below 10v u have a dead cell in ur battery.

    is the battery a gel battery or acid ? did u charge the battery for 12 hours before fitting to the bike ?

    have you ever put car jump leads off a car onto ur bike that has a flat battery as the amps and power surge can pop regulators. if ever jump staring a bike or car with jump leads as soon as bike or car with flat batt starts turn the head lights on and leave the jump cables connected atleast 5 mins because if you take the leads straight off the bike or car with flat batt goes from seeing a fully charged batt to a dead one and causes a surge which blows the generator alternator

    hope this helps for further knowledge and happy biking :)
     
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  4. Barney1

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    Hi having spoke with a service guy at dobles this morning he's just told me this ,
    12.2/12.9 way too low , best way to check voltage is has follows ....
    Start bike ( if it will start ) turn all lights on and indicators hold throttle at 5,000 revs
    Then test battery with meter , readings should be 14.0 / 14.4 for a spot on battery ,
    So my bike is going for a service on the 15th of march and battery will be checked
    and hopefully sorted out , oh and by the way no such thing has a free first service
    the oil I have to pay for which I knew but £70 labour also ... :(
     
  5. 1000rr73

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    Do just check those battery terminals are nice and tight.
     
  6. Garyb

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    Right Barney, I've had a read through and here's my 10 pence worth that I know/hope you will see where I'm coming from? And could be a possible heads up for others?

    Battery terminals!
    Are they or have they been greased? Yes I know the correct method is copper slip, however when the technician has a tin of spray grease in their hands they tend to get a little trigger happy.
    The reason I'm asking is, lots of peeps put grease wether it's spray or otherwise onto the terminals to help stop verdigris and corrosion of the clamps.

    Exactly same scenario but with a guys car at work, the victory of my knowledge was even sweeter as he was the auto electrician.

    Back to my thoughts.
    Grease, depending of course it's type and of course base structure is actually an insulator. So we may think we are doing right by blobing the white stuff on our terminals, but Infact we reduce the voltage being put back into the battery if any at all.
    Basically anything of the Dow Corning variety is an electrical insulating compound.
    This may not pertain to yourself? It could be a totally different fault.
    But just a heads up.
    I have done a bench test and indeed with grease applied to the terminals voltage is around 12.2 ish with no current flowing in to the battery.
    Once the terminals have been cleaned, the voltage indeed returns to normal, 14.4 ish
     
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  7. Barney1

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    There's no grease , battery is exactly the same condition has when I got it from bill smiths ,
    Just something not right ,
    Oh and today when I rang to book service , my bike never even came up on computer ,
    So he checked it on some dvla thing and it still not come up ?
    Is it going to be one of them bikes , I sure hope not :(
     
  8. Garyb

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    Ok mate, it was worth a punt, As for not being on the system?
    Did you have any difficulty insuring it? I mean to say, did the insurance data base recognise it?
     
  9. Barney1

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    Yeah soon I give them details no probs , I just think I'm going thu a bad patch ,
    But I'd rather not have it
     
  10. Oggy

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    As weird as it sounds a 12v battery is pretty flat at 12.2v. You should expect 13.7 but as megawatt says; anywhere between 13.5 & 13.8 is good.
     
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  11. hump333

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    My bike done this last year!
    Check your regulator wire and connectors for corrosion or loose there in black sleeve, right side of bike. Your reg should have numbers on 1,2,3 put meter reader on them see if power coming out. If kicking more out, your stator probably gone! Regs/stator are good my money on loose connection in sleeve
     
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  12. MrB

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    PM me your VIN Barney let me check Honda's system for you.
     
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  13. biggsjo

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    Hi Barney, my Blade did exactly the same when I go it last November, I had it on an Optimate but it kept dying after a run. I phoned my dealer who told me not to do anything as they would need to check the bike out before just fitting a new battery. They were great, came and collected the bike took it away checked everything out fitted a new battery and delivered the bike back. You paid a lot of money for the bike so let the dealer take the pain, let them contact your local dealer if that is the rout to get it fixed. Don't get fobbed off. As for the free service my dealer assured me that as long as they do the service there is no labour charge just consumables like oil filter etc. keep smiling and let the dealer take the stress.
     
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  14. Barney1

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    Free service not with dobles , its too far to take bike there for its first one , so going to smiths in Chester ,
    £50 bits £70 labour , because I didn't buy the bike from them , even tho I've most prob paid for its first service
    already when I bought the bike ,
     
  15. MrB

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    That's generally how it goes and many Honda dealers have dropped the free labour 1st service offer now anyway.
     
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  16. megawatt

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    Worst thing about buying a new bike, having to go back to the robbing stealers for a "service".
     
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  17. thezipsteruk

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    Barney Ol bean, I had a slightly different scenario with my ABS being faulty I know, but it was still a new bike and I got fed up (and broke) riding down to Dobles due to problems etc. so...
    the last time, I rang up the Honda happiness (warranty) and told them i was not experiencing much honda happiness and was having trouble with the bike!
    what they then did was send a recovery truck to transport my Blade all the way back to Dobles!
    While it was there for my ABS (yours could be battery) I got them to put on new rubber (you could get them doing your service).
    Then they simply rung me when it was all done and I went and picked it up.

    not sure if you can do this or not or if it helps you in any way just though id mention it.
    When your at Dobles mention that Mr Nye sends his regards and the bike is still wicked! (watch their faces drain of colour, then followed by relief), think I made their fussy list, lol
     
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  18. Only1Matrixxx

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    We have quite a Dobles fan club as I bought mine from there march 2012
     
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