ABS brake bleed costs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'General 1000RR Discussion' started by ufoxed, Nov 26, 2016.

  1. Dave dunlop

    Dave dunlop Elite Member

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    Not heard of this 10min quick bleeding for ABS Fireblade models??
     
  2. ShinySideUp

    ShinySideUp Elite Member

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    Pretty sure that's coz it doesn't exist,

    Can someone conventionally bleed c-abs systems......well yes it's part of the bleed procedure in fact but if doing only that section of the procedure then there is the small issue of the cloudy contaminated fluid still inside the modulators/valve units and motors as well as the connecting pipework but that fluid won't matter will it.....similar liquids don't mix do they? :eek:

    Suzuki recalled & replaced loads of master cylinders couple of years back due to the possibility that the MC's could corrode inside the piston bore if fluid maintenance was not kept up to date, but it's not like nissin parts are also used on the Honda for instance.......oh wait oops Honda own nissin!
     
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  3. sp1n99

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    Just thinking out loud here......would it not be possible to connect direct from master cylinder to calliper and just blank off the rest ( maybe for future reconnection)?
     
  4. ShinySideUp

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    What you mean remove or bypass the c-abs system and turn a bike into a non-abs conventional braked model?
     
  5. sp1n99

    sp1n99 Active Member

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    I know the system can be removed, but can you just bypass the e-cabs and blank the rest off.
    If the answer is yes then that would be a relatively easy and cheap fix.
     
  6. ShinySideUp

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    Yeah, all that would be required would be to fully drain down the c-abs system to remove the old fluid, pull out the fuses powering modulators and abs gear, then remove brake hoses going to calipers and the MC's and refit new conventional brake lines from the MC's to the calipers and bleed up as normal.

    You would still have all the additional weight to contend with on the bike and the abs light will be always on in stock form tho but would work as a non abs bike.
     
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  7. ufoxed

    ufoxed Active Member

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    Hi guys thanks for your comments and I have read them all and to be honest shinyside up has totally hit the nail on the head for me - have the dealership ignored the problem because this just has not been mentioned to me not once in four services that's the over riding point...Honda have a responsibility to make this clear at purchase surly.
    I will have to stump up the cost and see how the bike is after the work but to be honest I feel I may well get rid and screw Honda I will look to buy a Yamaha R1 instead...
    .Have learnt a lesson though as I read a lot about the pros and cons before purchase but still opted for ABS .... big mistake
    Thanks once again ....Will update you on how good a job I think they have done when I get the bike back Thursday after giving the dealership some stick on their lack of awareness of this problem....
    Regards Ufoxed
     
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  8. lamina

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    This would solve my wrong wheel issue while saving the hassle of completely removing the system. I would need to check if the ABS light would fail the MOT as I'd still be road riding between trackdays. Any thoughts? (sorry to hijack the thread)
     
  9. ShinySideUp

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    The abs light being always on currently does not warrant failure under current mot regs and you would get a pass certificate if your bike was to go in for an MOT with it always being on.

    The regs are different for cat IV vehicles such as cars and vans, in those regs you would receive a fail certificate if the abs light does not extinguish within appropriate specified time.
     
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  10. Slick

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    Did my MOT a few months back with the ABS light on, passed with flying colours!
     
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