SP Throttle Problem

Discussion in 'General 1000RR Discussion' started by KOS, Jun 27, 2017.

  1. Jimbo Vills

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    So that's your dealer saying that and not Honda? Think party line is still 600 miles....

    Don't disagree with you I've always believed in (and been told) that progressive and smooth build up through the rev range is best for bedding in. But is also a more of a precaution....

    My Ducati race bike was run in on the dyno and a few sessions on track (but not twatting it as the oil was still the thin running in oil)... all my other bikes I've run in I've not stuck to the max rev limit either but been smooth with the bike....

    Iain Hopcroft who's Hopkins crew chief told me (as did a separate Ducati race mechanic who done my dyno run in) that it's more to do with heat cycles and not miles.... but circa 600 miles is recommended as that's what is 'average for heat cycle requirements' in road use. Different on dyno and track ;)

    Motorapido still run there Bsb bikes on the road for a couple hundred miles or so and then dyno....and they def don't cane em on running in oil.

    But they maybe talking shite and Ducati are made of cheese so who knows....
     
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  2. dainesefreak

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    Not sure what Honda say now, but the last gen Blades just used to say no full power starts until first service.
     
  3. glenn

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  4. glenn

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    in my owners manual says 300 miles running in this is for 2017 blade
     
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  5. Gaffa22

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    I obviously didnt read the manual fully but that would explain why the dealer said 300 miles
     
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    What page is that on as I just did what dealer told me and not use full throttle or max revs for first 600.
     
  7. glenn

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    page 16 mate
     
  8. Ritchierich

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    Cheers Glenn I totally missed that first time round, but then again when does a man ever read a manual :)
     
  9. Mattie660

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    Was just curious as to why there should be such a big difference, 300 miles v 600 miles - but it seems that the new model is the same.

    Just checked and my 2015 model Owner's Manual says, on Page 16:

    Running-in Period
    During the first 500 km (300 miles) of running , follow these guidelines to ensure your motorcycle's future reliability and performance:

    • Avoid full-throttle starts and rapid acceleration
    • Avoid hard braking and rapid down-shifts
    • Ride conservatively
    Funny, I thought it was six hundred as well - would even have bet a tenner that it was six hundred miles.
     
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    Every day a school day
     
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  11. Stevie_d

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    My standard blade was like that , pain in the ass . Honda took the excess play out of the throttle cable on the 600 mile service . Loads better , dunno why they are like that
     
  12. Dave dunlop

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    Any good bike technician will adjust this when the bikes built up, it's one of my pet hates and have adjusted two whilst out on PDI this week.... ZZR1400 and a ZX10R.... takes minutes and makes all the difference
     
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    Pretty shit really , made blipping the throttle on changing down a real ball ache
     
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  14. Ritchierich

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    Right then Kos I tried Mode 1 over weekend and my god I've got no teeth left with the suspension on A1, it was like riding a jack hammer. However I had no problems at all with the throttle and have set User 1 mode to 1,3,1,A2 excellent for the North Wales roads and it handles like a dream :)
     
  15. Kevin1

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    Hi KOS. I don't own any version of the new Fireblade. I took it out for a 2hr test ride, that was enough to put me off buying one. I don't know what mode it was in for anything, it was just as the dealership gave it to me.
    The thing that I find most concerning is that some people have experienced the throttle problem and some haven't, just the the C-ABS scenario on the out going model
     
  16. KOS

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    Many thanks for doing that. It seems as if about 50% of new Blades have the problem and you have a good one. My bike was checked out by a Honda electronics specialist this week at my dealer so I don't know exactly what he has done. I am told by the dealer that he plugged in his electronics kit and downloaded loads of data. He then went on the road with a data logger taking more data as he rode. Obviously he found no faults. Either he was incompetent (which I doubt) or some thing was altered but Honda have not admitted to anything wrong despite the problem being worldwide. I still have not had my bike back so I cannot confirm if it has been fixed.
     
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  17. KOS

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    Hi All, thought I would give you an update. I had the bike back after three weeks at the dealer. Officially nothing was altered but somehow things are much better and am beginning to appreciate what a superb bike the 2017 SP really is. Full power using the quick shifter gives rapid acceleration and am stunned that anyone can think that it is bland. Yes it does everything you expect a litre bike should without any fuss.
     
  18. Gaffa22

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    Anyone who describes a modern litre sports bike as bland, ain't twisting the throttle hard enough.
     
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  19. sp1n99

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    That'll be me then!
    If you're twisting the throttle hard enough for it not to be bland on the road I don't think your licence will last long.
    If you want to twist the throttle hard a 250 two strokes way more fun.
    Only my opinion of course.
     
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  20. Mattie660

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    I have a great fondness for that CBR, and I am sorry, I just cannot reconcile the last two years and +18,000 miles of riding and ownership with bland.

    The nod, and a thumbs up, from a little group of Italians at Mugello - surrounded by Ducatis - and they gave my CBR the nod and thumbs up - how cool is that !

    A French truck driver sticks his arm out of the cab window, and gives me the thumbs up as I fly past - I look back in the mirrors as he disappears into the distance behind me.

    The Cronk-y-Voddy straight, Isle of Man.

    The way it corners and settles, braking sometimes with one finger, and its good manners around town.

    The way it looks, quite stocky, but well proportioned. Big air intakes on the front. Quite basic, but the real deal - not a pretender.

    Sure I had a lot of fun on my old XT660 supermoto, but that does not put it in the same league as that CBR Fireblade.
     
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