2019 SP vs 2007 RR6

Discussion in 'General 1000RR Discussion' started by dmc12, Dec 2, 2019.

  1. dmc12

    dmc12 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the info @RC45. Makes perfect sense in terms of how the bike feels compared to a linear cable throttle.

    Interesting re the dyno too - if it requires cleverness like an ECU flash I'm not sure I trust my local guy to do that. Will need to find somewhere with a bit more know-how!
     
  2. nigelrb

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    And that could become a nationwide search. I'm not up with Dynos on the 2017 - 19s, but nothing has ever come on the forum about the need to reflash prior to mapping. Perhaps the only owner with any knowledge of this might be @nevsrevs .

    I think most 'basic' dyno guys will just roll it on, plug in the leads, tweak, and hand over a bill for £300.
     
  3. RC45

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    Yep, the first thing you notice if you try dyno an SC77 Fireblade is that it will shut itself off - you can see the same effect if you do a burnout with the bike. The front wheel not spinning while the rear wheel spins is an unknown and foreign state to the bike. Add to that changing gears and the system will think the front wheel speed sensor has failed and it enters interesting territory.

    So the most basic ECU reflash is to set the ECU to ignore the front wheel speed sensor error and allow the bike to continue to deliver full power and potential and run up and down through the gears.

    You could also reroute your front wheel speed sensor to the rear wheel, rig up a sensor mount and fool the bike into thinking the front wheel was turning - but re-flashing the ECU is simpler :)

    Of course the ECU then needs to be re-flashed to return the error logging state to its original form so that in the event your Front Wheel Speed Sensor does fail, you at least will know about it - all the system ABS, TC/Wheelie Control and Ohlins Suspension rely on accurate front and rear wheel speed data.

    There is no getting around it, any SC77 dynoed without the front wheel speed sensor handled was just good money thrown after bad.
     
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    Cheers, Paul.

    Not p!ssing in your pocket, but your knowledge of these bikes must be second to none. I know you've had every piece on and off and opened and tested, all in an effort to create the perfect track weapon. The fact you have had so many disappointments along the way at the hands of Honda is more than concerning.

    However, the experience you bring to this, and the USA forum, is invaluable and must have benefited many owners both through knowledge and saving money. I truly hope none take your contributions for granted, although it is inevitable that that is the way of the world. Cheers to you!
     
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