Covid 19

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  1. Mattie660

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    It is a perfect bio-weapon. It has been so accurately engineered over years of genetic engineering that it can spread easily among humans - even though it is not a human virus.

    It causes economic harm by disruption. It is not so fatal - a country that prepares to use it as a weapon can be ready to act and will not suffer the same harm as a country that is totally unprepared.

    At the end of it the country that releases it (even accidentally) can deny any responsibility - or even blame it on another country. The foolish elite in the West and the media actually believe that the catastrophic damage being done to them was an accidental result of someone eating a pangolin !

    Perhaps these same people think that China would confess - sorry we accidentally released this terrible disease on the World, please feel free to send us any bills you may have and we will recompense countries and individuals for any losses - a bill in $$$$ that would be so large I could not even imagine what the number would be called.

    Of course they are not going to take that option of admitting it is their fault - easier to blame someone else or blame it on people eating bats and pangolins.
     
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  2. CharlieR85

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    Tell you what Mattie, why don't you substantiate this claim that it's a bio weapon perfectly engineered over years....let's see the testing/evidence that credible sources have put together? You can't because it's a conspiracy theory! That's how they work, they don't rely on evidence.

    "A conspiracy theory is an explanation of an event or situation that invokes a conspiracy by sinister and powerful actors, often political in motivation, when other explanations are more probable. The term has a pejorative connotation, implying that the appeal to a conspiracy is based on prejudice or insufficient evidence. Conspiracy theories resist falsification and are reinforced by circular reasoning: both evidence against the conspiracy and an absence of evidence for it are re-interpreted as evidence of its truth, whereby the conspiracy becomes a matter of faith rather than something that can be proved or disproved."
     
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  3. mk3golfcab

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    I’m in agreement that it is somewhat of a conspiracy theory but I do agree that China has/had more knowledge of it than they let on.

    I just want it over so I can ride my blade :)
     
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  4. CharlieR85

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    Absolutely, and so do I. They've more than likely hidden it, lied about it and played down their numbers. But they haven't manufactured it in a lab.
     
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    Agree @CharlieR85
     
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  6. Mattie660

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    India takes China to International Court for waging COVID-19 Bio War.

    They allege that China - "surreptitiously developing a biological weapon capable of mass destruction" - the case has been put forward by The International Court of jurists and the All India bar Association.
    https://greatgameindia.com/chinas-biological-warfare-program/

    Glib accusations of "conspiracy theory" allow for valid arguments to be dismissed out of hand without having to provide any satisfactory contrary evidence.

    I have provided links to numerous articles that you are probably too afraid to read.

    For the record, I still think that SARS-Cov-2 was Bio-engineered in Wuhan Bio Lab and from there went on to cause the current COVID-19 pandemic. It likely escaped as it is so contagious and from there we have an attempted cover up to save the potentially gargantuan costs of lawsuits for compensation.
     
  7. CharlieR85

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    Mattie, the articles you are linking me to have no scientific weight behind them. They are merely one of the thousands of websites online that are willing to propagate nonsense. Why can't you see this?
     
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    So none of the Intelligence organisations in the World know about this? Any Country caught doing this would be fooked, can you imagine Trump or Putin not responding?

    Think I'll stay away from this thread for a while, too many marbles running loose that'll roll off the edge of the world.
     
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  9. Mattie660

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    But you do not read them - including this letter from US Congress accusing China of hiding and manipulation of information - and this letter has extensive source material - all dismissed by you as "COBSPIRACY THEORY"

    China being taken to Court by India, letters from US Congress to WHO outlining their concerns - all somehow "Conspiracy Theory"....
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  10. CharlieR85

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    I am specifically talking about your belief that it's a bio weapon engineered by the Chinese.
     
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    They are not going to admit it - because they are not even supposed to be doing that. That is illegal. Of course they are going to try and deny it - because it is illegal, never mind how it got out.

    That is why the big propaganda campaign to blame the meat market - pangolins and bats as a way of distancing themselves from what they were doing illegally inside the lab.

    One of the claims against China is that they have been lying about their Bio weapons programme - accusations that pre-date the current crisis. This is all referenced in some the articles that I have linked to in this thread.
     
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  12. CharlieR85

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    You're off your head mate.
     
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  13. Mattie660

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    Put The Guardian down and take a look at the real world:

    The US believes that despite being a member of the Biological Weapons Convention, China maintains a BW program in violation of its BWC obligations. The United States believes that China’s consistent claims that it has never researched, produced or possessed BW are simply not true, and that China still retains its BW program.

    Although China has submitted its voluntary annual BWC confidence-building measure (CBM) data declarations every year, the US Department of State assessed in 2005 that the information submitted therein continued to be ‘inaccurate and misleading’. Further, ‘BWC CBMs since 1991 have called on the States Parties to declare, among other things, their past offensive activities, which China has not done. On the contrary, China insists it never had such a program at all.’

    Likewise, in 2007, Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) testimony for the US Senate, the Select Committee on Intelligence, entitled ‘Current and Projected National Security Threats’ (in both open and closed sessions), contended that the DIA believes China ‘continues to maintain some elements of an offensive biological weapons program.’

    The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the DIA and intelligence agencies in other countries most probably continue to carefully follow and monitor China’s Biological Warfare Program. Irrespective of publicly bringing out their findings—if partially—or totally keeping them, Beijing’s BWP entirely persists in all likelihood. It is assumed that it includes an extremely secretive operational, sizable BW arsenal, extremely hidden, which is steadily being upgraded.

    China’s Biological Warfare Programme: An Integrative Study with Special Reference to Biological Weapons Capabilities by Dany Shoham published in Journal of Defence Studies.

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    Yes I know they're horrible people and they're up to all sorts...but the only fact you need to know is countless western scientists have told you via multiple reputable sources that this virus is NOT man-made. The end.
     
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    Anybody can go on the internet and download the articles they want from so called experts to back up their views and beliefs I bet if you google enough, covid 19 was brought here by men from Mars :rolleyes:
     
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    :D:D:D genius. You've done me there. Haha. :)
     
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    I'd like to echo that too.
     
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  19. Mattie660

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    An article written by Justin Ling telling everyone not to listen to those CONSPIRACY THEORIES is not really evidence.

    Especially since I have provided evidence of US Congress - in their letter to WHO - which Justing Ling has not shown or commented on.

    Justin Ling saying don't listen to them is not evidence.

    He still could not get round the fact that someone was caught in Canada stealing viruses.

    Another point Justin Ling makes no mention of India taking China to international court for their alleged bio weapons activity - is that a conspiracy as well ?
     
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    And another point - I do not need some website to tell me what to think - what to read - and what to believe.

    I read your article and linked to the site and read it all.

    Whereas you just dismiss anything I post on the basis that that you have been told that it is a CONSPIRACY THEORY and not to believe it by someone else.
     

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