180 or 190 rear tyre?

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  1. BLAGGERS

    BLAGGERS Well-Known Member

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    i could be wrong, i usually am, but i thought the dunlop 55 was constructed so it didn't alter the radius, so the speedo will still be ok...????
     
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  2. Pinkster1000RR

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    Yes that's true buddy... the speedo shouldn't be affected by the tyre fitted.
     
  3. Swiss T

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    You may well be right there, but I'm struggling with the logic. If the tyre is taller by 5%, then the rolling circumference is X % more, hence the change in final drive gearing. Does the Dunlop have a lower sidewall?

    :)
     
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  4. abv

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    The 55 profile defintely has a larger diameter, that's part of the point. It raises the rear end which helps turn in.

    This document is interesting, it sets out a standard for tyre sizes.

    http://www.stevenott.com/draft5751.pdf

    According it these are the diameters of the two sizes in question:

    190/50-17 622mm
    190/55-17 642mm

    Using the Gearing Commander website Gearing Commander: Motorcycle Speed, RPM, Chain & Sprockets Calculator going two up on the rear spocket will compensate.
    Which is why I've got a 44 Tooth Renthal sprocket which arrived today :)
     
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  5. JM1

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    Changing to a 44 rear sprocket and sticking with the 50 profile is more fun in some ways though ;)
     
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  6. Swiss T

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    If you have a spare hour or so & want to learn a little about the differences between tyre brands, this Dave Moss film is interesting.

    E.g. I have never got on with Dunlop tyres; don't like the feel. Dave demonstrates that dunlops give a high amount of feedback because they are so stiff; to much feedback for me - distracting even. Conversley, he shows why the Pirelli are designed to give less feedback & a better contact patch - my prefered brand.

    He also shows that tyres of the same size, but different brands, can be very different indeed. You could even say that a Pirelli 190/50 is the same size as a Dunlop 190/55. Strange init.

    Dave Moss Unsprung: Tires, Dave discusses one of the most forgotten pieces of motorcycle suspension, the tires. He explores tire profiles, carcass construc...

    :)
     
  7. fez.57

    fez.57 Well-Known Member

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    this is 1 of my personal favourite tyre videos, really helped me choose the tyre i wanted
     
  8. crin

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    Best for economy I have used were pilot sports - even used them on track with no issues and now gone for pilot power 190/55 but not the 2ct's. Reason being they are £60 cheaper and the only difference is the 2ct's have softer edges. Unless your riding track days in the inters you don't need that soft.

    Got mine on eBay for around £160 delivered and love them
     
  9. martinowen

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    I know this it is an old post but if you haven't replaced it yet I run a 190 perrelli Diablo corsa 3 I get on really well with this tyre if that helps
     
  10. Otas

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    Bringing old thread into daylight. I have ordered chain kit with sprockets and rear +1 teeth, because plan is to going from 190/50 to 190/55 on my CBR1000 2006-2007, and also the main question is how to lower the rear height by 10mm? all lowering links in market lowers from 20-30mm or more and its too much for my situation. Is there any solution? Thanks
     
  11. Selmer50mark

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    You won't really notice the hight difference and as for the speedo it actually makes it accurate to the true speed of the bike .
    Most speedometers are 3mph lower with everything standard
     
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  12. Otas

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    I had cbr954 two years ago, and I also fit 190/55 tyre on it instead of 190/50 and that 10mm height difference I felt immediately, also felt some acceleration loss, that's why I ordered new chain set with +1 teeth on rear sprocket. But I figured that I can make myself adjustable links with some help from machinery shop and height problem will be solved
     
  13. Broadie

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    Daytona lady star boots will give you +25mm on your legs
     
  14. Otas

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    haha very funny. all I talking about is performance, motorcycle geometry and similiar things, not my height
     
  15. Broadie

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    No it’s a real option for a real problem but men don’t want to talk about it.
    Maybe just get a racey profile 50 or a slack 55.
    I don’t want to be a nay sayer I get it and I don’t. So god speed in your quest.
     
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  16. Jez

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    Reducing the preload on the rear will drop it down,
     
  17. Broadie

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    What problem are you experiencing with a 55? Might just be the case of dropping a few psi.
     

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