2017 - 18 ECU Thread

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  1. RC45

    RC45 Active Member

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    Ok - so the Autoblipper malfunction (which is actually a self-disable built in action) is actually expected on all 3 of those bike setups.

    The rear tyre size change will result in the expected and calculated counter shaft speed to be out of bounds for certain gear/speed combos and at that moment the feature will simply shut off - that is why you see the - in the display.

    The - in the gear display doesn't mean it couldn't "find a gear", it means the Autoblipper feature is not available at that moment you tried to use it.
    And yes, the system, its quirks and the handling of error states is a fuggen joke and very poorly implemented - and possibly dangerous and unsafe to boot.

    I would love to hear the feedback from the riders of these same bikes with the same setup but having swapped the Honda Quickshifter hardware for the HM Plug and Play Honda 2017+ Quickshifter load cell hardware.

    I sort of expect (and hope) the same failure will be experienced so Honda cant simply say you didn't buy the $3500 HRC quickshifter load sensor and that is why you experience the issue.

    We are very confident the reason for the issue of the - appearing is because the bike has no idea the back tyre is now bigger and that the counter-shaft speed will be out of sync with what is expected for the gear you are trying to select.

    All we need on the street ECU is the freaking sprocket/tyre calibration menu to be unlocked. Once this happens ALL the issues will be resolved.

    This idea that if the menu is available someone will enter an incorrect calibration and cause an accident is asinine - the ABSENCE of the calibration menu is far more dangerous in my opinion.
     
  2. nevsrevs

    nevsrevs New Member

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    Why do you think the 2019 seems a little more reliable with the incorrect tyre size on? Or do you think it’s pure luck that the jorno’s riding the bike on the Bridgestone launch did not get load of auto blipper faults?
    I have asked 44 teeth again that they 100% did not get any gear selection problems, they said none at all. With the 55 profile tyre on, as we know I would guess within 10 laps someone would of had the - of death
     
  3. RC45

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    It is very possible that part of the improvements in the software for 2019 could be a broader window of counter shaft speed for a given gear change.

    Have the 44teeth guys had success with a 200/55 or 200/60 tyre or just the 190/55?

    BTW, any Rich Bastard Company Director type SP1 owner want to plonk down the £2,242.56 on a 2019 SP ECU to see if will plug up to 2018 harness without objecting to the 2018 ABS module and dash unit?

    Incidentally, the ECU only costs $1,195.63 in the US.
     
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  4. nigelrb

    nigelrb Elite Member

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    Bloody hell. On conversion we'd be paying US$2800.00! If I were in the market for one I'd be asking some serious questions about that!:eek:
     
  5. nevsrevs

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    @RC45 the Jerez bikes did have a 200/55 on when I looked
     
  6. RC45

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    And they never had a single Autoblipper issue on the 200/55 equipped bikes?

    And Honda was involved in this Bridgestone tyre extravaganza?

    This is very odd as I have checked with 2 major Honda Powersports dealerships here in the US and neither shows their service manuals updated to cater to Autoblipper maintenance alongside 200 sized tyres.
     
  7. nevsrevs

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    Apparently not, I asked them again yesterday and apart from the abs/brake loss the gear selection was perfect and no one else commented to them?

    I did not see Honda when I was there lurking around as it was purely a tyre launch with lots of manufacturers there, but that does not mean they have not had a fiddle with the ecu.
     
  8. nevsrevs

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  9. RC45

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    Direct copy from the HRC book... so how is it the street bike miraculously doesn't need calibration but the race ECU does? Seems odd that the street ECU is that tolerant of different tyre sizes.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. nevsrevs

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    Strange.
    Apparently Honda U.K. are releasing a fireblade update bulletin today? Wait and see
     
  11. nigelrb

    nigelrb Elite Member

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    Certainly not holding my breath. Probably another episode of carrot dangling reference to new models.:rolleyes:
     
  12. nevsrevs

    nevsrevs New Member

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    I ain’t got much hope
     
  13. AdamH

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    Do we have a time for the release of this bulletin?
     
  14. nevsrevs

    nevsrevs New Member

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    My Honda dealer said it’s on it’s way????
    What ever that means.
    Please get in contact with your dealers too guys if this bothers you, more the merrier
     
  15. nevsrevs

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    So rang the stealer on the way home and drum rooooooolllllll
    The response was yea I’ve received the bulletin and ........... it wasn’t much help

    Great
     
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    nigelrb Elite Member

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    Are you prepared to share this 'unhelpful' news?:confused:;)
     
  17. RC45

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    I bet the bulletin is pretty much this information in "dealer update" form. There is no super secret feature they are going to share, it will just be a declaration of how Honda intened the rider to use their features. And probably a schpiel about how riders are too stupid to understand calibration so it will never be included.

    Then again, I could be wrong and it maybe a secret control sequence that unlocks our bikes like a late 90's PlayStation game LOL Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Lett-Right-Triangle-Circle-Square

    [​IMG]
     
  18. nevsrevs

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    The bulletin was just crap by the sounds of, basically got told that the 3 bikes will need to come back for a inspection. And we all know what that will do
     
  19. Barstewardsquad

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    Honda are the crApple of the bike world. Charge a premium for old tech, and always blame the user for issues because they are riding/holding/braking/typing it the wrong way.
     
  20. nigelrb

    nigelrb Elite Member

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    If that is the case, it will be very interesting to learn if all owners are contacted. It sounds to me like a politically 'soft' recall.:rolleyes:
     

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