Casey stoner

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  1. Stevie_d

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    Because he's good. Very very good. A lot of people don't understand the talent of the guy. Before MM came along he was the best rider of our generation..fact!!

    Give the guy a couple of laps to get back In his rythem and he'll be bang on the pace. It's like in Qually when he was Racing. He'd go, out lap, flying lap & then park it. Set the fastest lap. Whilst everyone else would be throwing tyres and laps in, He'd be sitting at the back of the garage chillin, knowing no one would beat his time lol. That's why he's a test rider. He's still fast and still has the ability to smash quick laps in from the off
     
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    I get all that , but he turned his back on the sport and retired at the top of his game. Honda even offered to double his salary for him to do another year in motogp, he turned them down don't know why he then accepts a testing job. If it's in the blood he should be back competing with MM 93 . Everybody would love to see that
     
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    Valentino might disagree about best rider of our generation! A good rider don't get me wrong but not the best
     
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    Moto GP is very political. It's the underlying issues you don't see that caused him to quit. Like how the whole series basically revolves around Rossi is just one of them.

    If I were offered millions to be a test rider, I'd probably take it too.

    Ok Imho he's the best rider of our generation lol
     
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    Please enlighten me
     
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    Rossi IS moto gp. He brings in a lot of money for the series. He's a global super star. Some people just tune in to watch him. Dorna will listen to him as he's the golden boy. A massive revenue generator. After all, racing is all about making money & Rossi is money lol.
     
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    He came to England to race at 14 it was his (and his parents ) life he had been doing it a long time double World Champ and became a dad nothing to prove f*ck it walk away Marco had died season before I can relate to that.
     
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    Mmm gotta admire a guy who could turn down 500k per race to stay another season.
     
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    He is motogp because of his record IMO. He beat and dominated in his sport for a decade and made some amazing riders look average at times. You don't win all those titles without being the best... And I'd say he is the best of a generation, prob ever...

    Stoner came up against him at a diff stage in his career, which is always hard to compare, but I think rossi still managed to beat and compete against him. That said, stoners talent was jaw dropping and maybe could of gone one to be a great... But that's just it for me, he didn't.... So we will never know.

    Gibenau
    Biaggi
    Hayden
    Pedrosa
    Lorenzo
    Stoner
    MM

    All awesome riders, MM has changed the game once more, blown the new kids on the block into the dust, left Lorenzo a shadow of his former self, yet the only one who still has the desire and talent to take it to him is the old boy VR46.

    18 years between 1st and last win.... MM is faster but times move on, stoner prob was too, but none have managed to stay on top so long (yet)....

    As for OP, fair play to him, get his fix and get paid... Awesome, nothing to prove and you have to respect that. Maybe Honda want him as a tester as he clearly has balls and isn't a yes man. They might get an honest report from him on what he's testing. Compared to the bloke who licks arse in the hope he might get a wild card ride ;)
     
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    Would have liked to have seen fogarty against doohan!
     
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    Doohan would have smashed him up. Bloke was an animal lol
     
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    Reckon you might be right! Foggy reckons different but feel he did shy away from gp! Although his record in Wsb has yet to be beaten
     
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    Doohan had most riders beat before the lights went green! He went back from the big bang engine to the screamer that caused his worst accident to liven things up
     
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    Have to agree with Jimbo, Doohan V Fogarty no competition, winner Mick Doohan with an eye patch on.:D
     
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    Stoner renew with HRC is just PR. pay Stoner some £££ and this gets HRC/Honda in the papers and on the news.

    Good PR is worth lots
     
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    I'm pretty sure there's a limited amount of time a current GP rider is allowed to test. If they use a rider not currently competing in GP's they can test as much as they like. Stoner would be the obvious choice for HRC.

    I'd love to know how many laps Bayliss turned in testing before he smashed everyone in Valencia in 06 lol
     
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    I think Stoner made the right call by quitting when he did and can fully understand why they want him as a test rider. He has experience, knowledge and skill and will be able to help them develop the bikes further.

    I like to see people retire at the top as opposed to being an also ran. He has nothing to prove and can sit back with his family and enjoy what he has earned.

    Not relevant to class riders by lap records IMO as bikes are continuously having more and more electronic rider aids, better tyres etc etc.

    I would love to see what the current crop would be like racing against the likes of Doohan, Sheene etc on the bikes of the Doohan days.
     
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    Stoner did a 1.59.9 v MM at 1.59.6 (new lap record)!! On a better bike in better conditions.

    Personally I think Stoner could beat MM on the same bike. As for Rossi, he is 9 times champ, when MM had 10 I will agree he is better. Stoner proved by Turing down Honda's deal he is NOT in it for the money. We know Rossi is not as he's loaded, same for most of the others.

    I think Stoner is one of the greats. Moan he may, but NO WAY he moans as much as me!
     
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    Don't think of it as moaning! But constructive criticism
     
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