Keep reading this thread trying to understand just how a 5 minute hack with a total stranger can provide a comparison of two bikes performance? Sorry but how could anyone possibly know what gear the other persons in? On the road I reckon 9 out of 10 riders hit a limit to just how fast they can ride, regardless of the bike. I'm not talking in a straight line btw, I mean ride. On a track, well I watched our very own Andy smoke almost everyone on a grands worth of zx7 So when I'm out on my old 929 riding quicker than 80% of the people I ride with its because the 929's a better bike? You have you opinion that you smoked him, bet he has he's opinion too when he left you through traffic- who's right? Who actually cares?