Honda CBR 1000RR Vs BMW S 1000 RR Vs Yamaha YZF R1

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  1. Edward1990

    Edward1990 New Member

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    Honda CBR 1000RR Vs BMW S 1000 RR Vs Yamaha YZF R1?
    Which one of these would be an easy bike for a motorcyclist shifting from the GS1200 Gr?
     
  2. Paul Longstaff

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    That's a big question.
    The upright comfortable riding style of a GS would suggest he / she will get on easiest with the BMW as it is quite roomy but I didnt gel with it when I tried one. Strong mid range and still very powerful.
    They are all good bikes but I've read the Yamaha is quite a committed riding position head down bum up but I havent ridden one myself so cant offer more. The CBR1000RR is possibly the smallest of the 3 and the 2020 version is very much a track focused machine. So unless they can use that absolute performance they're probably never going to get even close to using it's best features (high revving screamer) which makes the last 20% of the performance envelope wasted.
    Best to try each of them out or at least try the riding positions out as they are very different to the GS, a lot smaller, a lot more agile and a LOT quicker which makes them A LOT EASIER to get yourself into trouble :D
     
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    Maybe the previous model S1000RR. They seem to be a very capable road bike.

    The R1 is quite a small bike. I do not have any trouble with its ergonomics at all, but some people do. I feel that the R1 can still be used as a road bike, which is what I do. Also feel that I will run out of talent long before it runs out of ability ! Love that bike. ;)

    Seriously nearly bought one just like this - sat on it in the showroom - 2018 S1000RR

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    My choice would be the Beemer. As far as sports bikes go its seems to have the edge on comfort. With an added bonus of being awesome
     
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    What put you off in the end - was there a feature you didn’t like or was it just a case of couldn’t/wouldn’t justify it to yourself?
     
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    Perhaps its because I am shorter (at 5feet 8in).. but I find the CBR1000RR (2017-2019) super comfortable to be on.

    I found the 2015 BMW S1000RR 'slightly' more bum up, and less comfy. It does have lovely wide bars though.

    BUT there is not much in it, and if you are heavier/taller the BMW may be better. More expensive too mind.

    You have to sit on and ride them, to see what suit you. They are all super super capable.
     
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    I wanted the R1 since that model first came out, but had been put off by the idea that it is too extreme - that it is just a race bike and too extreme for the road. In the end just thought that I will have the R1 anyway and find that out for myself. It actually rides really well on road.

    The S1000RR was starting to look like a "sensible" option compared to some of its rivals. Also thought it might be available cheaper once it is superseded - might be able to pick up a good deal !
     
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    I’m surprised you say the R1 is small mattie, I find it bigger than the 17 blade and the S1000RR, the R1 certainly has the longest reach to the bars, the main downside with the R1 is the aggressive down angle of the bars, which I fixed with a set of heli bars.
    The S1000RR is probably the easiest to ride along with the blade 17-19
    But the S1000RR is very bland and the electronics on the blade are crap in comparison to the R1
     
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    Thank you for all the replies, it really helped me a lot. A friend of mine has an R1 and according to him, you can not ride it for any longer than an hour you lower back gonna kill you if you try to go anymore and the main focus is to clock as many miles as I can in a single go. A guy on another forum asked me to check z1000 as you don't have to lean much while riding.

    So now narrowing my options. Z1000 vs BMW S 1000 RR??

    What's your guy's opinion about that? I'm Still confused.

    Note: I have not ridden any superbike in 8 years.
     
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    We are all different body shapes. I rode mine from Portsmouth to Lancaster one morning - with a rucksack on my back about a 5 hour trip - and back again. No issues at all, happy days. Ridden it lots of times with a rucksack on without wrist/back issues.

    The whole discomfort argument of the R1 has turned out to be a huge non event for me - I just don't get it - does not compute - not idea what you are talking about - really.

    It might help that my only bike is an R1, so it just feels like home. I never get on it and think it feels weird.
     
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    Never write a bike off because someone else tells you its uncomfortable/crap etc etc.. I agree with @Mattie660 .. The R1 is fine as a road bike, it makes more sense on the track but it is quite frankly a fuckin awesome bike.. It's hard to buy a crap bike nowadays.. I can't comment on the other two but I've heard both are ace. The only negative on the R1 is the ABS which is too intrusive on track, but I never noticed it on the road.... Try and get test rides if you can or at least sit on each to compare the ergos.... If you've not ridden a superbike for 8 years id imagine initially they're all going to feel pretty uncomfortable for a while so get the one that floats your boat the most ;)
     
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    You said yourself that you're a ittle confused and so am I to be honest, only because you've thrown in a Z1000 curve ball? Based on your initial shortlist, I thought you were after the sports bike experience but it sounds like you want the experience but with a bit of comfort? Wise choice me thinks! In which case I think you should consider adding the Aprilia 1100 Tuono 2015+ to your shortlist? They're a hoot by all accounts. I admit I've only sat on a couple of show and dealer bikes but ergonomically found them to be comfortable for my 6ft1 frame, 34 inside leg. For me there is a slight reach forward to the bars but I prefer that to being bolt upright and wrist wise much more comfortable. Either way I think it's down to personal choice and budget, so I think some test rides are in order before you part with your hard earned. Hope this helps a bit? If funds permitted, I would be chopping in my RR8 for a Tuono! Am too old for sports bikes but not yet ready for a comfy armchair type GS!
     
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    I have been riding GS for too long so I was looking for the bikes which have a little adrenaline boost along with comfort.
    Today I rode all three plus the Ninja H2 and what a fucking animal H2 is just a little extra acceleration and the bike is like to drop you in thin air. For a GS guy like me, it is a fucking animal and I feel no shame to admit it my balls were in my throat while cornering. For me, H2 is the king now. How you can handle that on the roads?
    R1 is also superb in terms of performance but guys I literally felt spinal pain after 10-12 miles. I am 6'6 and I found it hard to adjust my legs and shifting gears was also not that smooth but I think it is tuned to come alive after 6k RPM and I think it would be hard to control it in the city. and IDK why I felt some bumps while riding it in the low RPM.

    CBR1000 is also the perfect bike but I have been told by a tech guy that it's electrical things are not as reliable however the engine is kind of bulletproof. Electrical problems like fried stators due to bad rectifier/regulators ECU being faulty and throwing FI codes over nothing. IDK if any of these true but that's what I have been told by a tech guy though my legs and back were fine while riding it.

    BMW was just fine, nothing wrong with that. though the tech is a little better and 2020 looks much better than others. So far, I like the BMW ride comfort and H2 acceleration and the adrenaline boost it provides. but it will be way above my budget so I guess i have to stick with BMW and will also Aprilia 1100 Tuono a test run.
     
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    Wowsers you didn't tell us you were a giant!!! I guess that does make the ergos a lot more important!! Good luck with the hunt although sounds like you're narrowing it down, glad you're getting tests on them as that's the only way to find out!
     
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    Actually you have got me confused as you say that you have not ridden a superbike in 8 years and yet your post of 26 December 2019 you say you have a 1000RR and loving the riding pleasure it provides.

    Even my poor maths can work out that December 2019 is less than 8 years ago.

    What's going on then hey ? did you forget :D now be a good truthful fellow :D

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    I would also look at suzuki gsxr1000. still unadulterated with electronics and more comfy than the bunch you listed
     
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    Glad you noted, yes I bought a 1000rr a couple of months back but never rode it to the double digits and then sold it out due to some financial issues.
    BTW what comes to your mind to check my profile?
     
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    BMW S1000XR might be worth considering also.
     
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    I didn't check your profile - just clicked on the "Messages: 5" to see your previous posts as there were only 5 of them. No biggie !

    The older generation S1000RR must be available for reasonable prices now second hand


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    yeah, life sucks when you are short on money. looking for a used one but here in California, it is hard to get a low miles bike.
     

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