Thoughts on electric bikes...

Discussion in 'Other Bikes' started by hitch, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. CharlieR85

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    Why do you think governments don't want us to be able to drive anywhere Mattie?
     
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    I read an article where the government want to ban all IC vehicles from UK use and once self drive tech get here to ban us all from manual driving, thankfully I will to to old to give a shite when all this crap hits the fan in 20-30 years ☺
     
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  3. Mattie660

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    Climate Change Act 2008 - the UK government have a legal commitment to reduce CO2 emissions by 80% from their 1990 levels - 80% reduction !

    You won't be able to fart let alone drive a car ! 80% :D
     
  4. CharlieR85

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    You were making out they want to stop us driving all together in an attempt to inhibit our freedom?
     
  5. Mattie660

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    Yes, that is what will happen if the government enforce a 80% reduction in CO2 emissions on the UK population - 80% reduction is not life carrying on as normal, and will require a huge loss of personal freedom. They knew that when it was brought into law.

    Personal property, freedom of the individual are anathema to socialist central government - bit by bit, using whatever excuses come to hand, those things will be reduced. Despite the stuffy assurances of Oxford academics and intellectuals - cannot happen here ?

    It will if you let it - and time will tell.

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  6. CharlieR85

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    Right..... So what is their aim, reducing carbon or eliminating our freedom? We all know this CO2 target is bollocks and its going to ruin the way we live and travel eventually.....but it seems you're suggesting it is all a ruse to inhibit the people.
     
  7. Spygoat

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    I can assure you, all governments have, are, and will continue to do things that are not in the best interest of your personal freedom.
     
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    If I were to make a statement against this carbon footprint overkill, would topping myself on a shiny leccy help the cause?:eek:

    Just wondering.;)

    And I say this with the assumption that there's no mandatory reporting laws attached to the forum?:)
     
  9. CharlieR85

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    I'm sorry but not in the UK. The majority are a bunch of pricks but we choose them end of. We don't like what they do we get rid of them. The EU definitely is like you describe but I think we might be on the cusp of getting out of that vipers nest.
     
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    It seems that the only person acting on emissions is President Kahn in London :mad:
     
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    Governments/Councils want to cut emissions but at they same time they reduce the flow of traffic with bus lanes, traffic calming and lane removal, whilst they also decrease speed limits effectively increasing the amount of time vehicles are on the roads.

    As for President Khan his plans are a joke. Buses spend so much time running on diesel around my office that they may as well not have a battery option. With the exemptions for black cabs as well the whole thing is just a giant pisstake designed to extract money from Joe Public.
     
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  12. Spygoat

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    You're confused, I see. I operated with plenty of Brits...you are right there with all of us..lol
     
  13. CharlieR85

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    Now I am confused.
     
  14. CharlieR85

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    I just don't agree with this big conspiracy theory that governments are trying to hold people back, inhibit our freedom, keep us unaware. It's bollocks. Reading too much claptrap on the Internet.
     
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  15. Mattie660

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    Because things move relatively slowly we are under the impression that nothing is really changing very radically, just natural progress - as if the changes that we observe are natural.

    The other thing that you do not realise is the extent to which socialism/the left is undermining western society. They have a history and a track record of this, so it is not just paranoia - millions dead.

    If you doubt what I am saying then read about it (not on the internet) - a 2,000,000 copy best seller - written by a former FBI Special Agent, studied Law and he wrote this:

    Reviewd by Ronald Reagan and J.Edgar Hoover first director of the FBI.

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    Some of these subjects that get mentioned are steeped in politics and so it is difficult to reply without touching on their political basis - but to be honest I do not care whether you believe me or not .........
     
  16. CharlieR85

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    Why is there always a bloody book to read with you Mattie!? :D

    Anybody can write a book you know, even radical crackpots with strange conspiracy theories.

    I will share one opinion with you....Socialism.... :mad::mad::mad:
     
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  17. Spygoat

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    In the real world, not the internet, your govt and mine (and many others) do things behind the curtain. They wage wars, they kill people, they position leaders to make decisions that benefit them. None of this is done in the interest of your personal freedom. it is done to keep them positioned at the top of the food chain.

    Why do you think we are so concerned with the Muslim world? Religion? Freedom?

    Oil.

    Tell me I'm wrong and I'll show you I'm right.
     
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  18. Mattie660

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    I get very interested in subjects and read everything I can - not to preach, but to understand for myself. That is why I don't care whether you believe me or not - up to you.

    Another feature of the left is to attack and discredit the person they do not agree with, rather than argue the case and the points raised - it is called an Ad hominem attack, you will see it used all the time.
     
  19. nigelrb

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    Have you?:D;)
     
  20. CharlieR85

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    It actually has more to do with huge arms companies than oil.

    You are getting yourself mixed up whilst trying to maintain your sniper/armed forces/secret agent persona. I know shady things go on, Russians and foreign nationals are killed on British soil most weeks which is quite clearly more than an accident. But this doesn't equate to govts trying to remove our freedom by stopping us being able to drive ourselves round in our cars.

    Anyway, difference of opinion. You and Mattie think we're being controlled... I don't. Let's leave it at that.
     
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