Tyres

Discussion in 'General 1000RR Discussion' started by Alan Devon, May 28, 2020.

  1. Jaffacakes81

    Jaffacakes81 New Member

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    Hi , I recently put on pilot road 5s on my '16 blade and found them a huge step up from the dunflops it originally had.... I'm planning on getting through this tyre in the next 4-6 weeks... wanted to get your feedback on the s22, the next tire I wanted I was tempted to go with the power 5s , but would you recommend the S22 over them?? Any feedback on the tyre would be really appreciated.

    Thanks J. :)
     
  2. Marc

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    I've not tried the Power 5's but I really can't recommend the S22's highly enough. I've probably done 600+ miles on them now and have yet to find any fault. Conditions have always been good in fairness, I do ride all year round so ask me again in 6 months and I'll let you know what they're like on a crisp December afternoon.

    Inevitably I compare to the Pilot Road 4's but in reality there is no comparison. I understand the argument for using tyres like the PR4's, far better riders than me will do amazing things with them and if you're doing lots of miles etc then I get the benefits. For someone like me who only does circa 5000 miles a year and isn't as talented as some, then a tyre like the S22 is monumental. It genuinely is a different bike now.

    I've never used a tyre that offers the same levels of grip and more importantly, feedback. Oddly, the greater the lean angle the more confidence they give you. I'm still getting used to them but can push further than I ever have before, they turn on a sixpence and are nothing but rock solid stable. I find myself coming out of corners and thinking I could've gone round far, far quicker, without even pushing it. I've never been a roundabout junkie but I have found myself doing a few laps if it's quiet of the one's I use on my usual routes, I've grown addicted to corners! No idea how long they'll last but TBH, even if it's only 2000 miles from a rear, it's a trade off I'm more than happy to make.
     
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  3. Jaffacakes81

    Jaffacakes81 New Member

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    Thanks for the review :) I think I'm gonna put them on this summer, I'm planning on burning through these road 5s pretty soon , I've got plenty of mileage planned and I'm choking to try the S22s.... I'll keep you updated as to how I get on :)
     
  4. Gouldy_

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    After 300 miles on my sport attack 4's, can give an honest review of them on my 2019 blade.

    Massive, massive improvement over the OE dunlops. Incredibly grippy, even getting on the gas out of turns etc.

    The only down side I have found to this tyre is that I don't think I will get high mileage out of a rear. 2 trips out and I've already scrubbed the "sport attack" writing off the tread. I will report back after I've done a few more miles on them
     
  5. Paul Longstaff

    Paul Longstaff Well-Known Member

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    Well I peeked them out to about 1500 miles. Washed the bike and thought I would lube the chain when I spotted this. Thought I had 1 more ride left as whilst they were squared off the tread wear indicator was still visible.
    So don't want RS10 (dealer struggling to get some anyway).
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    Had previously thought the S22 would be a good option but I think I'm going for the Michelin power 5 as a bit softer / stickier than the S22 but still better mileage than the RS10 that's on.
    Got the Road 5 on my BMW f700gs and am very impressed with them. Pulling some ridiculous lean angles for such a bike, this may be the first tyre ever where the edges will wear out faster than the middle on the rear tyre! So decided to stick with Michelin and the Power 5 seem to be the one if choice.
    Obvs will report back in months ahead once fitted.
    Mind I've got to get some prices first ....:eek:
     
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  6. icedmind

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    Wow that’s pretty quickly you worn them down my s22 rear done about 1.5k UK miles and 2.9k Europe mile just come back before the new lock down restriction (30+C air temp every day almost and loaded up with luggage) and still got about 1mm before the wear indicator in the center.

    I have seen others keep the S22 on front and put a T31 on rear, so might do that next

    let us know how the power5 goes
     
  7. Paul Longstaff

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    Mobile fitter coming out to my home on Wed morning to fit Power 5 front and rear. £300 all in.
    I reckon that's about £15 more than I would have had to pay by taking into a dealer so not too bad for the convenience. The best prices were averaging just over £240 for the tyres alone and given I dont have a front stand it would have been £45 fitting on a ride in ride out basis so am happy enough for now. Let's hope he does a decent job, I do NOT want my shiney gold wheels scuffed !
     
  8. Stuish

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    That's what I did for the last europe trip, was a really good match, just put a S22 on the rear
     
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  9. Paul Longstaff

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    We are really spoilt for tyres today. 20 years ago there was some real crap out there but not now.
    There is always that temptation to 'over tyre' your bike with the latest softest stickiest tyre that then disappears in 1000miles but all that lovely extra stickiness was never used (unless you did a track day) cos it invariably only comes into play at higher temps than your ever likely to achieve on the road.
    A regular sportyish tyre is ample for most even on a track and can also give really good mileage.
    I can understand why Honda put track type tyres that are road legal on there top tier sports bikes but for most it just means we have to budget replacing them pretty soon after taking delivery.
    Anyway I'm looking forward to some fresh rubber and some more miles :D
     
  10. TheRamJam

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    On my MT10 i'm on my third rear tyre and the bike only has 5352 miles on the clock. The bike came with S20 OE tyres and they were ok. After 2600 miles the rear was done. I replaced the rear with an S21 and that felt so much better, especially mid corner stability. After a week I changed the OE front to the S21 and almost instantly I had more confidence in the front. However after 2700 miles the 2nd rear tyre was done. The 3rd rear tyre has only about 200 miles on it so far however I think I may try the Michelin Power RS or Power 5s to see if I can eek a bit more mileaage out a rear tyre.
     
  11. Paul Longstaff

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    If you ride hard (?) I think 2700 miles out of a litre bike is pretty good.
    Historically Bridgestone have always been my favoured manufacturer but the Road 5 impressed me so much on my little beemer I changed my intended purchase of S22 to the Power 5.
    I think the Power RS has been replaced by the Power GT.
    They're new 2020 tyres so not millions of reviews of either available but I've seen enough to know early reviews are extremely positive. I saw 1 independent test rate the Power 5 the best of all the current crop including S22 but it was foreign and I had to translate much of it.
    Either way time will tell if I made a wise choice but I will def report back
     
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  12. icedmind

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    Agree and just to added to that, I had gone through a few set of S21 and when moved onto the S22 it felt the rubber is lots softer, just like when going from S20 to S21 on my 6; I was running higher pressure (42cold rear) in my Europe trip with the same level of comfort and still more grip than lower pressure S21 esp when learn over; which is why I think it lasted longer in the blasting heat, and luggage loaded up.

    I did made the last few set of S21 lasted longer but that was in the typical UK normal temp cold days/nights on cold tarmac plus a few evening track days
     
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    I run 36F & 38R pressures. I suppose anything North of 3000 miles on a litre bike is pretty good in sticky sporty rubber. This new rear should last till next year anyway lol then I guess its a toss up between S22s, Power RSs, or Power 5s
     
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  14. dgr

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    I've done a couple of thousand miles on a set of Power 5s. They are wearing pretty well.
     
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  15. R.M

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    Just gone through a set of Angel GT's (5k miles) & ordered a set of Power 5's.
    How do you rate the power 5's in relation to grip & longevity?
     
  16. dgr

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    The grip from the Power 5s is plenty for me but I don't ride particularly fast. My last set of tyres were Road 5s and they still had life left in them when I replaced them after 6500 miles. I'm expecting to get at least 4000 out of the Power 5 on the rear and then I'll get another. I think the front will do twice that.
     
  17. Paul Longstaff

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    Well we Got off to a false start today. Tyre fitter turned up , removed wheels and then pulled the replacements from his van for me to point out they were the wrong tyres :mad:
    He only ordered Road 5 not Power 5 tyres :(
    So he is coming back tomorrow evening with hopefully the right tyre though I am now going to miss a lovely weather day tomorrow before a few days of wind and rain set in......bugger !
    He is at a Coft track day all day tomorrow so after that is earliest he can get back. We both agreed my current back tyre would probably not last the 60 miles to croft so cant ride it to him there.
    Oh well...bit gutted as had a great days riding planned in my head for tomorrow, will have to go on the little beemer instead
     
  18. Paul Longstaff

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    Fitted Power 5 yesterday (eventually) and out for a quick scrub in today. Front 33psi rear 37psi
    First thing and bare in mind I'm comparing against the Bridgestone RS10, the profile is softer so it's more U shaped than V shaped. Personally I prefer this as it feels more consistent but accept it doesnt drop into a corner quite as quickly. It does make it easier to pick up though from 1 direction to another so it's more a case of which type of profile you prefer rather 1 being better than the other on the road.
    Grip seems excellent, I've o ly done 50 Mile's but my chicken strips are down to about 7 or 8 mm each side. Unfortunately rain stopped play and yes I got soaked but wet grip was so much better than the RS10 but that shouldnt surprise anyone.
    My traction control has been on level 3 since I got the bike and i tried a couple of times to trigger the TC into action and it didnt the front just started lifting so I'm guessing the grip levels will be more than enough on the road for me.
    I remember early on the RS10 became roughed up and grainy on the surface from the very first outing ( so I knew it wasnt going to last long & it didnt) but these havent and dont look as though they have been used with a still smooth looking surface so longevity is looking good too but time will tell.
    Today after my first ride I'm very happy with them and look forward to many miles (hoping for a min 2500 miles out rear)
     
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  19. cbrbadboy

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    It's a lot mate

    Trackday tire guy does it for 10 a tire
     
  20. Wozza

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    Also your weight will add to the rear tyre wear and grabbing a mass handful coming out of bends I tend to change up quicker as.not to shread the centre ...2 of the guys I ride with are 15 to 16 stone and they get 2k miles out off sports/road tyres like s22 etc ....I am happy with supercorsa V3 they have made the centre harder last set 3500 miles very happy with that if they lasted 1k miles would switch to next ones down in range or if I was using the bike daily in more wet weather etc,,,
     

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